瞬间百年-前门大街-图说-服务器里的北京 - 老北京网

HK 发表于 2008-5-20 19:36:00

瞬间百年-前门大街

<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">ca 1865 - <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">此<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">木<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">刻画是按<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">P.Champion<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">于<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">1865<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">年拍的照片刻出来<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">原照已不知在哪<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">肯定是以知最早的前门大街照<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">此照和六年后<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">Thomson<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">拍的变化不大<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085201935875772.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />1872 年,出<span style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">自John Thomson<span style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">汤姆森.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">此照初见于1874<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">年出版的”Illustration of China” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">一书的第四册里 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085201921073900.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca 1880~ 1900<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">以下三张都是庚子前的<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">第一张JUXU <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">网友认为是庚子后,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">我并不同意.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">比教下,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">第一张更接近<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">汤姆森那张,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">而<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">且街上不见黄包车,
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">虽然看不清,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">但感觉上<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">左<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">边的转角楼的文字和<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">汤姆森那张很像  <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019224995106.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">和前门一样<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">感觉上越接近庚子<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">街上小摊越多<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">[<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019242131155.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />upload=jpg,ca 1890 - 1900b.jpg]UploadFile/2008-5/200852019234152141.jpg ca1901 –<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">推测庚子<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">议和后. <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019253134352.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />1902, 1<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">月12<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">日,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">老佛爷回来了…..<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">谁有大一点的图? <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019254868637.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1902~1905,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">街上已有黄包车<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019264484081.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1906, 由沙原提共<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085201927329553.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1907~1910, 由燕山深处提共,这张的电线杆比上一张多,路人好像还有辫,推测在民国前.<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019274587877.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1910~1912?, 由燕山深处提共,年份应较上一张晚,但不会晚于1912<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019282323690.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">ca1922,<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">出自喜仁龙的城门和城墙 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019303920766.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1927,出自德国人(Perckhammer)北京一书 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019312176549.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1930,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">原照存于某大学 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019315831332.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> Ca1933~1946,
<span lang="ZH-HK" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">赫达·莫里逊<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">的<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019323014721.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />1946年后? <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019332515352.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

HK 发表于 2008-5-20 22:33:00

这张是庚子后不久,已见数根电杆,但那张一更不见...<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852022311667157.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

HK 发表于 2008-5-20 22:36:00

德拉太子,您把我这些加上去,也该够数..

黑龙发表于 2008-5-20 22:39:00

HK 发表于 2008-5-20 22:07:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用jnxu在2008-5-20 21:25:00的发言： 你是一个非常慷慨的人，我先表示一下钦佩。 关于那张照片的断代，我还是偏向认为是庚子事变之后的，用你贴的3张图来说明： 首先以下两张图的年代是没有争议的，图一是庚子事变后的，图二是庚子事变前的，前门大街被火焚主要是在大栅栏一带，红圈所示建筑可以作为前后对比的参照物。 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852021213779588.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852021213724326.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> 而图三红圈中建筑的样式我觉得更接近图一，因此判断这张照片是庚子之后的。 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852021232917458.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> </div>我们大家一研究我认为是庚子前,而且是较早前的,原因如下:1)从以往照片看,一般在庚子前后已有黄包车,这张不见,奇怪.但这不是主要原因.2)比较下图,右边是1872年的,可见XX金店.和左边一样,不像重建,更像同一建筑物.而这建筑物不再出现在其他照片,不会是1872年有这店铺,然后拆了,庚子后再重建...机会不大嘛...<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085202261869067.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />还有的,代续

HK 发表于 2008-5-20 22:22:00

3) 比较,上下两图,虽角度不同,严重怀疑是同一店铺.此店铺亦不再见于明显是庚子后的照片,但有更多照片显示这里已成空地.我认为此地在庚子后空置一段长时间.<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852022213333708.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />还有的.......

西直门 发表于 2008-5-20 23:30:00

<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852023295472882.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />也来一个好像刚解放时

黑龙发表于 2008-5-20 22:59:00

<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852022502213236.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852022571471896.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852022574263865.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852022582630967.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> 不几张庚子事变刚过的照片，部分建筑还没有恢复，但市场交易却很活跃，注意穿过正阳桥和正阳门牌楼的御路，这时候还很清晰后来修路就看不见了

黑龙发表于 2008-5-20 23:06:00

可能是1905年 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085202355217194.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />   这张非常不清楚但可以看到正阳桥中间的桥栏已经被拆除，铺成了石板路，大概1909年<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085202331267786.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

HK 发表于 2008-5-21 00:50:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用黑龙在2008-5-20 23:06:14的发言：  可能是1905年 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085202355217194.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> 这张非常不清楚但可以看到正阳桥中间的桥栏已经被拆除，铺成了石板路，大概1909年<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085202331267786.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> </div>您这张不应是1909年,细看和我那张1922年的很接近,请留意图片左面,牌楼边建筑物的广告牌....应是一样.

HK 发表于 2008-5-21 01:04:00

黑龙那张该晚一点ca1922~24?,路已修好.<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852113394694.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

jnxu 发表于 2008-5-20 23:54:00

还有待探讨

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用HK在2008-5-20 22:33:44的发言： 这张是庚子后不久,已见数根电杆,但那张一更不见...<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852022311667157.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> </div>不过关于竿子，我刚拍了张《北清事变写真帖》中的照片，1901年2月出版的，山本赞七郎摄，也就是说1901年2月（前面的题词是1901年1月）前就这个竿子了，这个不能算是很有力的证据。  <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852023551974207.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

析津志 发表于 2008-5-20 19:48:00

照片都收藏了,好片子.

小小的我 发表于 2008-5-20 21:33:00

<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852021331058446.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

jnxu 发表于 2008-5-20 21:25:00

很乐意和HK兄及论坛里的各位高手探讨

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用HK在2008-5-20 19:36:06的发言： <span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">ca 1865 - <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">此<span style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-TW; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">木<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">刻画是按<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">P.Champion<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">于<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">1865<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">年拍的照片刻出来<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">原照已不知在哪<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">)<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">肯定是以知最早的前门大街照<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">此照和六年后<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">Thomson<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">拍的变化不大<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085201935875772.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />1872 年,出<span style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">自John Thomson<span style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">汤姆森.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">此照初见于1874<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">年出版的”Illustration of China” <span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">一书的第四册里 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085201921073900.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca 1880~ 1900<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">以下三张都是庚子前的
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">第一张JUXU <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">网友认为是庚子后,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">我并不同意.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">比教下,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">第一张更接近<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">汤姆森那张,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">而<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">且街上不见黄包车,      <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">虽然看不清,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">但感觉上<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">左<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">边的转角楼的文字和<span lang="ZH-CN" style="COLOR: #222222; FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">汤姆森那张很像   <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019224995106.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">和前门一样<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">感觉上越接近庚子<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: SimSun; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">街上小摊越多<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">[<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019242131155.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />upload=jpg,ca 1890 - 1900b.jpg]UploadFile/2008-5/200852019234152141.jpg ca1901 –<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">推测庚子<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">议和后. <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019253134352.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />1902, 1<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">月12<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">日,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">老佛爷回来了…..<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">谁有大一点的图? <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019254868637.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1902~1905,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri;">街上已有黄包车<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019264484081.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1906, 由沙原提共<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/20085201927329553.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1907~1910, 由燕山深处提共,这张的电线杆比上一张多,路人好像还有辫,推测在民国前.<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019274587877.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1910~1912?, 由燕山深处提共,年份应较上一张晚,但不会晚于1912<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019282323690.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">ca1922,<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-bidi-font-size: 11.0pt;">   <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA;">出自喜仁龙的城门和城墙 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019303920766.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1927,出自德国人(Perckhammer)北京一书 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019312176549.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />ca1930,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">原照存于某大学 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019315831332.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> Ca1933~1946,     <span lang="ZH-HK" style="FONT-FAMILY: '新細明體','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">赫达·莫里逊<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;">的<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-FAMILY: 'SimSun','serif'; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: Calibri; mso-hansi-font-family: Calibri; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt;"><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019323014721.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />1946年后? <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852019332515352.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> </div>  你是一个非常慷慨的人，我先表示一下钦佩。 关于那张照片的断代，我还是偏向认为是庚子事变之后的，用你贴的3张图来说明： 首先以下两张图的年代是没有争议的，图一是庚子事变后的，图二是庚子事变前的，前门大街被火焚主要是在大栅栏一带，红圈所示建筑可以作为前后对比的参照物。 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852021213779588.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852021213724326.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> 而图三红圈中建筑的样式我觉得更接近图一，因此判断这张照片是庚子之后的。 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852021232917458.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

dzjyang 发表于 2008-5-21 16:47:00

真是好东西！怎么这次前门修复和民国时期照片上差得那么远呢？很多房子都摘掉顶了！

HK 发表于 2008-5-21 20:57:00

多了黑龙照片,更能準确推测年份,因1901~1905年之间已有五张不同的照片,等同平均一年一张.细心比较黑龙的照片,认为年份如下:这张和我发的是同一张,均是1900~1901黑龙发的:<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852120292322925.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />我发的: <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852120295715385.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />到黑龙这张的拍攝日期和上一张十分接近,红圈部份是一样的.这张也是1900~1901年,因为红圈部份在1902年1月12日前已重建完成.<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852120334197286.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />然后到我发这张,推测1902~1903,右边红圈在重建中,留意左圈的建筑物,和下张还是一样的. <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852120442084007.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />到黑龙这张,推测1903~1904,右边红圈已重建完成,留意刚才左圈的建筑物,和下张不一样<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852120495832994.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />黑龙这张,推测1904~1905,左圈近牌楼的建筑物不一样.左下红圈还没有建筑物<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852120492225061.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />1905左下红圈多了建筑物,推测为箭楼重建用的. 此建筑物亦见于沙原发的1906年 <img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-5/200852120555590363.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

没存档 发表于 2008-5-21 19:21:00

原来的前门是这个样子的啊~~

dzjyang 发表于 2008-5-28 11:10:00

这种好帖，很难得，要顶！楼主辛苦了。

HK 发表于 2008-7-20 16:35:00

终于找到大火后的相同角度的照片.高兴啊.此帖算全了.小川一真所拍.<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-7/200872016335752744.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

斑马发表于 2008-7-20 20:53:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用HK在2008-7-20 16:35:29的发言： 终于找到大火后的相同角度的照片.高兴啊.此帖算全了.小川一真所拍.<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-7/200872016335752744.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> </div>很小的时候见过后就再也没见过这张照片，现在终于见到了！

HK 发表于 2008-7-20 21:50:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用斑马在2008-7-20 20:53:36的发言： 很小的时候见过后就再也没见过这张照片，现在终于见到了！</div>小川一真最好的照片都没有收录到庚子事变写真帖!约算了算,还有二百多张照片写真帖里是没有的,还卖那么贵!

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