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antme 发表于 2006-11-21 17:00:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>康德拉太子</i>在2006-11-21 16:36:49的发言:</b><br/><p><strong>13号院</strong></p><p>不知道曾经有多少人踏过这个门槛,以至于断裂。</p></div><p>不像踏断的,像锯断的</p>

丹峰 发表于 2006-11-22 00:22:00

<p style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">这个开在大菊胡同的门确实没有门牌号码,里面的院子在东内小街开着另一个门,门牌是</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">152</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">号,是个有两个院门的穿堂院。大菊胡同门上的砖雕是(从由至左)</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">乙卯春分</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">戬毂</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">&nbsp; </span></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">听蝉书</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">,民国以前,乙卯年分别为</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">1915</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">年(民国四年)、</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">1855</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">年(清咸丰五年)、</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">1795</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">年(清乾隆六十年),按风格推断,应该是</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">1915</span><font face="宋体"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">年。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></font></p><p style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">戬毂</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">读音是</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“Jian(3</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">声</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">)Gu(3</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">声</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">)”</span><font face="宋体"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">,原先有两种含义:</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></font></p><p style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">(</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">1</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">)《诗经</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">·</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">小雅</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">·</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">天保》第二阕有</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">天保定尔,俾尔戬毂</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”</span><font face="宋体"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">。这里,戬表示福,毂表示禄。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></font></p><p style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">(</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">2</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">)朱熹在集传中写道:</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">闻人氏曰:</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">‘</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">戬与剪同,尽也;毂,善也。</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">’”</span><font face="宋体"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;">这里,戬毂意为尽善。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></font></p><p style="TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; TEXT-ALIGN: justify;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">后来人们将</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">戬毂</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">作为一种吉祥用语使用,如北宋词人秦观在《代回吕吏部启》中写道:</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma;"><font face="宋体">宜戬毂之骈臻,顾颂言而何既。</font></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma;"><p></p></span></p><p></p>

飞哥 发表于 2006-11-22 08:12:00

两种意思都不错啊,佩服丹峰老师,得好好补补文学知识了。

康德拉太子 发表于 2006-11-22 08:39:00

爱屋及乌 发表于 2006-11-22 15:13:00

<p>实在是好贴!</p>

南城居民 发表于 2006-11-22 15:58:00

<font face="隶书" color="#3809f7" size="5">无论是认真严谨的胡同拍记,还是幽默诙谐的纪实,太子的帖子都是值得学习的。</font>

门当户墩 发表于 2006-11-22 19:06:00

<p>是呀,我非常同意网友们的见解,确实增长见识。</p>

门当户墩 发表于 2006-11-22 19:24:00

<p>我把《诗经-小雅-天宝》的第二阕抄给大家吧:“天宝定尔,俾尔戬毂。罄无不宜,受天百禄。降尔遐福,维日不足。”</p><p>&nbsp; 大意是:“上天为了安定你,使你得到福禄。尽你所得没不宜,受上天的百禄。降给你的远福,惟恐日子不满足。”</p><p>以上是摘自《诗经注释》周振甫译注</p>

斑马 发表于 2006-11-22 22:37:00

小菊胡同内有北京唯一一个财神爷图案的人物门墩(也是北京城现存不多的几个人物门墩之一,我2001年考察的时候门墩还保存完好!),不知道有人拍到否?

长发飘舞 发表于 2006-11-22 23:49:00

<p>高人多哉!!长了学问!!!!好帖</p>

Fengken 发表于 2006-11-23 00:20:00

<p></p><p>&nbsp; 喲,这儿挺热闹,讨论学问有意思。有小半年没参加活动,生面孔太多,都不认识啊。下回得问问大家的雅号,特别得问谁是“康德拉太子”,呵呵。<br/>&nbsp; 丹峰老师久违,还是在前门拆迁时,大家团结一致反对大前门拆迁的时候,曾经有丹峰老师的大作,令我们十分敬佩,但一直没见过面,下次是否能来呢?</p><p>“ 戬榖”二字原来我也不知道什么意思,但有一次在北锣鼓巷93号,宅主人原姓瓜尔佳氏,给我们讲他们家的二门上(文革毁)原来有两个大字叫“简古”,我们就问是怎么个写法,主人讲了。回家我查中华大字典和《小雅·天保》,“戬”字单独用时可以有几种讲法,而且可读“晋”;凡是“戬榖”连用的,都出自《小雅·天保》,也是,《诗经》始于公元前1100年,相当早啊。“戬榖”的“戬”读简。</p><p>查了几个现代《诗经》注释的版本,“戬榖”多解释为福禄,独朱熹《集注》说:戬,盡也;榖,善也。老北京四合院用“福禄”的讲法也相当合理,因为毛亨的有此注法。</p><p>我采取“盡善”的说法。因为《小雅·天保》:“天宝定尔 / 俾尔戬榖 /&nbsp; 罄无不宜&nbsp;&nbsp; /受天百禄 / 降尔遐福 / 维日不足。” “戬榖”后面已经有福禄了,福福禄禄就太多了呀。<br/>&nbsp;<br/>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 还有一点要注意:“戬榖”的榖,有几种写法,如:“觳&nbsp; 榖&nbsp; 轂”等,虽然古代通假字用的随便,但还是以左偏旁为士宝盖下“一”加“禾”的“榖”为正宗。电脑显示器上禾上少了一横。</p><p></p><p></p>
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老北京 发表于 2006-11-23 02:05:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>斑马</i>在2006-11-22 22:37:51的发言:</b><br/>小菊胡同内有北京唯一一个财神爷图案的人物门墩(也是北京城现存不多的几个人物门墩之一,我2001年考察的时候门墩还保存完好!),不知道有人拍到否?</div><p></p><p>进小菊胡同前,有了点儿小意外,所以小菊走的略仓促,没有留意到这个图案的门墩儿。小菊胡同已然被“粉饰一新”。事实上小菊胡同基本上都没有门墩儿了。希望是漏掉了,而不是消失了。</p><p><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2006-11/20061123245870777.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2006-11/20061123245863320.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2006-11/20061123245843496.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/></p>

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