伯阳子 发表于 2007-12-19 10:09:00

东北话。

祥玉格格 发表于 2007-12-28 12:27:00

其实.这不是北京的老话.是东北的,后来由东北人带过来的.六,七十年代起就有一大部分东北的来北京定居了,也就形成了一部分地区的方言

老街坊 发表于 2008-1-10 15:20:00

<p>这不是老北京话</p>

shili37 发表于 2008-6-24 15:04:00

<p>没听说过阿 就是看东北的电视剧看到过</p>

行人 发表于 2008-6-25 08:07:00

<p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp; 这东北话是打满族就有的.</p>

sw1983sw 发表于 2008-7-4 10:47:00

<p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 20.6pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 20pt; mso-char-indent-count: 1.96; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">客氏</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">(?-</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">1627</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">),名客巴巴,又名客印月。明末保定定兴(今属</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><a href="http://baike.baidu.com/view/4675.htm" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; text-underline: none;"><span lang="EN-US">河北</span></span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">)人,其夫名侯二。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">18</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">岁时成为日后的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><a href="http://baike.baidu.com/view/87321.htm" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; text-underline: none;"><span lang="EN-US">明熹宗</span></span></a><a href="http://baike.baidu.com/view/528680.htm" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; text-underline: none;"><span lang="EN-US">天启皇帝</span></span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">朱由校的乳母。熹宗即位后</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">封客氏为</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">奉圣夫人</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”,</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">客氏依仗熹宗的眷顾,与</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><a href="http://baike.baidu.com/view/19376.htm" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; text-underline: none;"><span lang="EN-US">魏忠贤</span></span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">勾结作恶多端,策划种种阴谋,人称</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">客魏</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">。把持朝政十余年,加速了</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><a href="http://baike.baidu.com/view/3371.htm" target="_blank"><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; TEXT-DECORATION: none; mso-bidi-font-family: 宋体; mso-font-kerning: 0pt; text-underline: none;"><span lang="EN-US">明朝</span></span></a></span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-hansi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">的衰亡。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><p></p></span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 21pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 20pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">百姓痛恨他们,又不便明说,</span><span style="mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">当时有一道士作歌都市云:委鬼当头立,<a name="baidusnap2"></a>茄花满地红。这二语何解?“委鬼”二字相拼,便是魏字,指的是当时大奸大恶的太监魏忠贤;“茄花”究属何解?据《明史》上记载,茄字拆开,便是客字。不过此语未免太过牵强。但是客字一旦作了姓,就发“且”的音。<span lang="EN-US"><p></p></span></span></p><p style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-INDENT: 24pt; LINE-HEIGHT: 20pt; mso-char-indent-count: 2.0; mso-line-height-rule: exactly;"><span style="mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;">因此客人念成“且”还是有一定来历的。</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/><br style="mso-special-character: line-break;"/></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt;"><p></p></span></p><p><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10.5pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体;"></span></p>

fortune 发表于 2009-3-31 15:31:00

亲字让你给听没了

心一 发表于 2009-6-1 19:42:00

<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><font size="3">评书里有这么说的。我理解是“一拨儿”。</font></p>
<p><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>
<p><font size="3">口语词的来源,有的是先有写法后有说法,有的是先有说法后有写法。</font></p>
<p><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>
<p><font size="3">假如一定找个写法,可能是“<font color="#0000ff">起儿</font>”,意思是:<font color="#0000ff">一起来的</font>。 比方“<font color="#800000">前起儿让后起儿</font>”,先来的一拨儿客人吃完,腾出桌子,给后来的一拨儿客人用。</font></p>
<p><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>

鼓楼人 发表于 2009-6-1 00:24:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>馋嘴猫</i>在2007-12-17 2:04:00的发言:</b><br/>
<p>北京人不这么念吧~~听老人讲,应该是河北一带才这么念呀</p><img title="老北京网 www.oldbeijing.org" style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick="javascript:window.open(this.src);" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://bbs.oldbeijing.org/images/emot/em06.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" align="middle" border="0"/> </div>
<p>我也听过河北人这么念。河北有个谜语:“一个小屋瘪又瘪,里头住着五个qie”,谜底是鞋。</p>

听竹风 发表于 2009-5-31 19:15:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老北京</i>在2006-8-24 22:59:00的发言:</b><br/>
       
        <p>我觉得“事儿”说的意思是,书面上还写“戚”,但读音为“且”,就像大栅栏的读音之争一样。</p><p>土语方言,皆为地方人的发音器官生理特点,以及地方文化特色所致,在生活中说白了就是个习惯,如本性难移一般,即使特意克制,稍不留神,就会乡音尽现。</p><p><br/></p><p>同意这种说法。。。<br/></p>
       
</div><p></p>

土狼 发表于 2009-6-16 16:49:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b></b>&nbsp;</div>
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">两码事吧!?<b></b></div>
<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>心一</i>在2009-6-1 19:42:00的发言:</b><br/></div>
<p class="quote">&nbsp;</p>
<p class="quote"><font size="3">评书里有这么说的。我理解是“一拨儿”。</font></p>
<p class="quote"><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>
<p class="quote"><font size="3">口语词的来源,有的是先有写法后有说法,有的是先有说法后有写法。</font></p>
<p class="quote"><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>
<p class="quote"><font size="3">假如一定找个写法,可能是“<font color="#0000ff">起儿</font>”,意思是:<font color="#0000ff">一起来的</font>。 比方“<font color="#800000">前起儿让后起儿</font>”,先来的一拨儿客人吃完,腾出桌子,给后来的一拨儿客人用。</font></p>
<p class="quote"><font size="3"></font>&nbsp;</p>
<p></p>

木西 发表于 2009-6-27 03:10:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>月儿弯弯照楼台</i>在2007-7-3 9:26:00的发言:</b><br/>
<p>这好像不是老北京话吧?没听老人说过啊。。。</p>
<p></p></div>
<p>不用犹豫,断然不是咱北京话。</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>

南城土著 发表于 2009-7-24 20:33:00

不是老北京话!北京话叫来 亲戚。

心一 发表于 2009-7-29 22:05:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>北京常四爷</i>在2009-7-29 19:15:00的发言:</b><br/>
<p>心一说的起儿我们家也说:来了好几起儿,还得支应着,现在真怕家里来人。。。云云</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>但起儿和且有没有关系,咱就弄不清楚了</p></div>
<p>&nbsp;看来不是老北京儿,也能找到北京话的语感。</p>

伯恒利之星 发表于 2009-7-29 18:16:00

<p>有一次开会,翟鸿起老先生告诉我们说跟老北京人说话的时候,一定不要说来“客人”了,而是说“来且儿”了。说是“客人”有“嫖客”的意思,说错了人家会不高兴。当时听了还真以为是这么回事。不过之后我还就没碰到有老大爷说“ 来且儿”的,倒是一次听一个东北的中年人偶然说起过。&nbsp; </p>
<p>学习了。</p>

北京常四爷 发表于 2009-7-29 19:15:00

<p>心一说的起儿我们家也说:来了好几起儿,还得支应着,现在真怕家里来人。。。云云</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p>但起儿和且有没有关系,咱就弄不清楚了</p>

天堂远未胜利 发表于 2009-8-2 23:36:00

老童 发表于 2009-9-8 10:17:00

<p>&nbsp;我始终认为是“契”字的变音,但字典上没有这种“且”的发音。但契字的几种解释可供参考:</p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p><font face="Verdana">1、感情志趣投合的朋友&nbsp;<br/>如:愿言蹑轻风,高举寻吾契。——陶潜《桃花源诗》<br/>又如:契交(契士。情投意合的朋友);契旧(老朋友);契好(契交);契弟(结拜兄弟);契己(犹知己)<br/>2、友谊,情义。如:契厚(交情深厚);契密(密切;亲密);契分(交谊,情分);契重(友情深厚);契谊(交情,友谊);契义(友谊,情分)</font></p>

yhjd123 发表于 2009-9-8 15:34:00

我是东北黑龙江人,我们那儿的当地人有60%以上,都是祖籍山东的。比如且儿、界壁儿~!这些都是比较常说的
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