深蓝 发表于 2009-10-18 22:01:00

关于东四牌楼请教各位同仁,谢谢!

<span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">按东四牌楼</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">——</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">南北两座均题</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">大市街</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">。东西两座题</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">:“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">履仁</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Arial; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">行义</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”&nbsp;可以看出这三张照片中牌楼上方均为“履仁”应为东四牌楼,可照片1中的牌楼明显比照片2和3中的要低矮,小弟十分不解,会不会是目测视差啊!请各位老师予以解答,谢谢大家!</span><br/><br/><br/>

老盘子 发表于 2009-10-18 22:22:00

改建过

北京中轴线 发表于 2009-10-18 23:17:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>深蓝</i>在2009-10-18 22:01:00的发言:</b><br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">按东四牌楼</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">——</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">南北两座均题</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">大市街</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">。东西两座题</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">:“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">履仁</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">行义</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”&nbsp;可以看出这三张照片中牌楼上方均为“履仁”应为东四牌楼,可照片1中的牌楼明显比照片2和3中的要低矮,小弟十分不解,会不会是目测视差啊!请各位老师予以解答,谢谢大家!</span><br/><img title="老北京网 www.oldbeijing.org" style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick="javascript:window.open(this.src);" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://bbs.oldbeijing.org/skins/default/filetype/jpg.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" border="0"/>此主题相关图片如下:东四牌楼1.jpg<br/><a href="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2009-10/200910182204571713.jpg" target="_blank"><img title="老北京网 www.oldbeijing.org" style="CURSOR: pointer" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2009-10/200910182204571713.jpg" onload="imgresize(this);" border="0"/></a><br/><br/><br/></div>
<p>错了。这张明显的是西四牌楼,不是东四牌楼。</p>

黑龙 发表于 2009-10-18 23:35:00

<p>东四牌坊在1912年被焚毁过,重建的,后来建的似乎就没有满文了,</p>
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<p>西四似乎没重建过。</p>
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<p>后啦电车开通,牌坊都不够高,就都涨个了,注意比较一下通车前后的牌坊照片中的夹杆石</p>
<p>之前的在地面上只能看到一点,通车后有近一人高了。</p>

imhsb 发表于 2009-10-19 11:51:00

&nbsp;&nbsp; 没发现戗柱也没了么

imhsb 发表于 2009-10-19 11:54:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>黑龙</i>在2009-10-18 23:35:00的发言:</b><br/>
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<p>后啦电车开通,牌坊都不够高,就都涨个了,注意比较一下通车前后的牌坊照片中的夹杆石</p>
<p>之前的在地面上只能看到一点,通车后有近一人高了。</p></div>
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<p>&nbsp;&nbsp; 好歹知道给拔高了啊,匪来后就直接"<strong><font color="#ff0000" size="4">拆!</font></strong>"了</p>

北京中轴线 发表于 2009-10-19 11:20:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>深蓝</i>在2009-10-18 22:01:00的发言:</b><br/><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">按东四牌楼</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">——</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">南北两座均题</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">大市街</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">。东西两座题</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">:“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">履仁</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">、</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: arial; mso-hansi-font-family: arial; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa">行义</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #646464; FONT-FAMILY: arial; mso-ansi-language: en-us; mso-fareast-language: zh-cn; mso-bidi-language: ar-sa; mso-fareast-font-family: 宋体">”&nbsp;可以看出这三张照片中牌楼上方均为“履仁”应为东四牌楼,可照片1中的牌楼明显比照片2和3中的要低矮,小弟十分不解,会不会是目测视差啊!请各位老师予以解答,谢谢大家!</span><br/><img title="老北京网 www.oldbeijing.org" style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick="javascript:window.open(this.src);" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://bbs.oldbeijing.org/skins/default/filetype/jpg.gif" onload="imgresize(this);" border="0"/>此主题相关图片如下:东四牌楼1.jpg<br/><a href="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2009-10/200910182204571713.jpg" target="_blank"><img title="老北京网 www.oldbeijing.org" style="CURSOR: pointer" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2009-10/200910182204571713.jpg" onload="imgresize(this);" border="0"/></a><br/><br/></div>
<p>看这幅西四牌楼</p>
<p>牌坊改建之前,天上有电线,地上有铁轨,有轨电车已经开通了。</p>
<p>另外,西四牌楼后来重新拆建过的。</p>

lujibing2004 发表于 2010-1-29 22:14:00

我还是觉得东四和西四牌楼的匾额上是一样的,靠城里面的是履仁,靠城门的是行义

郭大誌 发表于 2013-5-22 14:11:49

以前老街坊说上东四都不说上东四,说上”四牌楼“![/b]
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