玩瓷人 发表于 2008-8-17 13:58:00

[原创]请玩老瓷器的行家进来看看

康熙粉彩松鹤延年竹菊纹盘,直径:27.2cm,传世品,胎质糯米,釉水极佳,画工传神,彩料标准,有福有德有缘者居之,图片拍得不太好,实物更漂亮!我的电话:15338704393<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171401798475.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171401791017.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171401765585.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171401711154.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171401777371.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171412669768.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171412662310.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171412636878.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171412672447.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171412655740.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171431591891.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171431584434.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171431564610.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/><img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-8/20088171431510179.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /><br/>

食烟火斋 发表于 2008-8-21 22:20:00

马未都说康熙

马未都说过,康熙瓷器不落年款,如有年款,先打问号。

宿城小雪 发表于 2008-8-21 22:47:00

<p>新的</p><p>瞧那丹顶鹤跟鹌鹑似的</p>

老盘子 发表于 2008-8-22 00:03:00

<p>适合装酱肘子的盘子就是好盘子.其实我一直想一弄堂五彩或者清花的新活,介玩意过节请客当家伙使唤,绝对够范儿。</p>象这样的盘子其实很漂亮,应该让他回归本来的价值,当餐具用!<br/><br/><img src="http://upfile.cat898.com/UploadFile/2008-8/2008819222456768.jpg" border="0" alt=""/>

wyhqr 发表于 2008-8-22 12:15:00

新的

七上八下龙 发表于 2008-8-22 14:28:00

好几百年了,居然锃光瓦亮,肯定当时发明了真空机之类的.

析津志 发表于 2008-8-22 23:18:00

新东西,会掉釉吧,怎么当餐具?

宿城小雪 发表于 2008-8-23 23:16:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>老盘子</i>在2008-8-22 0:03:26的发言:</b>象这样的盘子其实很漂亮,应该让他回归本来的价值,当餐具用!<br/><br/><br/></div><p></p><p>现在瓷器烧得不好,画得乱七八糟,要么就印花。我原也有这打算,看到一个仿的不错的青花缠枝莲大盘子,想买回家装年糕,一打听,12000……</p>

老盘子 发表于 2008-8-24 11:24:00

<p>所以说要回归本来价值呢!</p>

玩瓷人 发表于 2008-9-4 15:32:00

<p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">高档藏品的标准现在流行所谓的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">真、精、新</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">,这是没错的。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">但是有几个人能达到这样的境界?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">真</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">和</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">精</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">好办,很多人恐怕要卡在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">新</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">字上了。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">非顶尖高手不敢碰也!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">其实对于高手很简单!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">高手和俗手的界线,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">100</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">分和</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">60</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">分的区别就在于能不能驾驭这个</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">新</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">字!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"><p></p></span></p>

玩瓷人 发表于 2008-9-4 15:34:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>七上八下龙</i>在2008-8-22 14:28:27的发言:</b><br/>好几百年了,居然锃光瓦亮,肯定当时发明了真空机之类的.</div><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">高档藏品的标准现在流行所谓的</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">真、精、新</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">,这是没错的。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">但是有几个人能达到这样的境界?</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">真</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">和</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">精</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">好办,很多人恐怕要卡在</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">新</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">字上了。</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">非顶尖高手不敢碰也!</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">高手和俗手的界线,</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" align="left" style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; TEXT-ALIGN: left; mso-pagination: widow-orphan;"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"></span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">100</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">分和</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">60</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">分的区别就在于能不能驾驭这个</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">“</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">新</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">”</span><span style="FONT-SIZE: 18pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: 宋体; mso-ascii-font-family: Tahoma; mso-hansi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-bidi-font-family: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;">字!</span><span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: #333333; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma; mso-font-kerning: 0pt;"><p></p></span></p>

元大都 发表于 2008-9-8 08:35:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder"><b>以下是引用<i>食烟火斋</i>在2008-8-21 22:20:18的发言:</b><br/>马未都说过,康熙瓷器不落年款,如有年款,先打问号。</div><p>老马说的太绝对了康熙中早期的作品基本都带本年款,后来的基本不带款是因为陶瓷易碎,怕带上款儿摔碎了不吉利。就下令禁止书写本朝款了。但这个时期有一大部分书写的是寄托款。这给鉴定断代制造了不少麻烦寄托款究竟算不算官窑呢?这种瓷器在市场上比带本朝款的价格相对要低一些。这种不写款的风格没延续多长时间到雍正时期就恢复了。时间也就二,三十年。</p>

爱屋及乌 发表于 2008-9-8 09:05:00

这个盘子,弄个摊鸡蛋煮花生五的,也让人胃口大开啊。多少银子,只要便宜俺就想要....不懂胡说楼主别气....
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