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HK 发表于 2008-4-19 18:28:00

正阳门重建系列-(重发)

<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">经各位网友努力<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">(<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">沙原<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">,<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">
<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">燕山深处<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">,<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">
<span lang="ZH-HK" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">黑龙<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">当然还有我<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; 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mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">重建工程小于十二个月<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">这批照片最少记录了七个<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">阶段<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">, <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">平均<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">1.5<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">月一张<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">, <span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">实不容易<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">.<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">我按照工程进度把照片重新排列<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">,<span lang="ZH-CN" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-CN; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast;">再发一次<span lang="EN-US" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; 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燕都蓟城 发表于 2008-4-20 15:45:00

诸位辛苦了！

akeyking 发表于 2008-4-20 17:03:00

应该不是脊檩……清代屋架采用举架制，各个步架的定位方式是自下而上的，不同于宋代的举折。不过这也是设计上的顺序，具体到建造上严格地说可以有自上而下的可能，但是这样特殊地做法似乎没有道理？另外中国古代建造房子时，上正檩是一个很重要的步骤，通常有庆祝仪式或法事等，这个活动都是预示着房子即将建成，没有第一步就举正檩的。

HK 发表于 2008-4-20 18:58:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用thomas_childe在2008-4-20 18:29:29的发言： 只能说比较全，但不是最全的<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-4/200842018305433187.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> </div>呵呵,有多一张,这张和第八张的进度很接近,难说的准哪一张较晚. 我猜"网上最全"还是对的.您知道有哪一个网站有比这批更全的吗? 将来的不算啊!

thomas_childe 发表于 2008-4-20 18:29:00

只能说比较全，但不是最全的<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-4/200842018305433187.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" /> 
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-4-20 18:31:07编辑过]

羊油麻豆腐 发表于 2008-4-19 19:13:00

真好，没有现代化大型机械，这么了不起的、有文化的建筑如今反倒不吃香了。那些钢筋水泥的快餐建筑霸占了整个中国，国人的悲哀！

燕山深处 发表于 2008-4-19 18:46:00

好，辛苦了。崭新的正阳门城楼已呈现出来 再找找新修复的箭楼图片,就齐了另外，那第一幅和第三幅的架子上方是顶了个什么东西呢
[此贴子已经被作者于2008-4-19 22:32:36编辑过]

析津志 发表于 2008-4-19 20:02:00

诸位辛苦了.

黑龙发表于 2008-4-19 21:10:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用燕山深处在2008-4-19 18:46:23的发言： 另外，那第一幅和第三幅的架子上方是顶了个什么东西呢</div>应该是城楼的大砣；看照片上，建法比较奇怪，先用脚手架把大砣的位置固定好，再建梁架，立柱；实在不明白，为什么，难道是失传古法？或是特殊的礼仪要求？或是材料不够，力求省材料？望由专业古建人事指点。

HK 发表于 2008-4-19 21:23:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用黑龙在2008-4-19 21:10:07的发言： 应该是城楼的大砣；看照片上，建法比较奇怪，先用脚手架把大砣的位置固定好，再建梁架，立柱；实在不明白，为什么，难道是失传古法？或是特殊的礼仪要求？或是材料不够，力求省材料？望由专业古建人事指点。</div>ciwreny是搞古建吗?我是搞"现"建的,不懂这建法.

西直门 发表于 2008-4-19 21:57:00

辛苦了各位，这么齐全的前门重修图片。

simwong 发表于 2008-4-24 02:28:00

凑热闹发一张，1907年12月的<img src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2008-4/20084242274782954.jpg" border="0" onclick="zoom(this)" onload="if(this.width>document.body.clientWidth*0.5) {this.resized=true;this.width=document.body.clientWidth*0.5;this.style.cursor='pointer';} else {this.onclick=null}" alt="" />

dzjyang 发表于 2012-3-28 16:00:00

这也是重建了，算不算文物？

440路57780 发表于 2012-2-6 16:33:00

不错~

故纸园丁 发表于 2012-1-27 06:11:00

补充资料--《东方杂志》1904年第1卷第6期关于正阳门修建工程的报道：

adam58588 发表于 2012-1-27 10:21:00

老照片一经整理成系列就是珍贵的历史呈现。
感谢HK、沙原、燕山深处、黑龙等先生的工作。
<span lang="ZH-HK" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: ZH-HK; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast">再补充几张不同角度的照片（可惜有点小）。
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北京中轴线 发表于 2012-1-28 10:17:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用adam58588在2012-1-27 10:21:00的发言： 
<span lang="ZH-HK" style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; mso-fareast-language: zh-hk; mso-ascii-font-family: 新細明體; mso-hansi-font-family: 新細明體; mso-bidi-font-family: arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 新細明體; mso-fareast-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-ascii-theme-font: major-fareast; mso-hansi-theme-font: major-fareast">  <img title="oldbeijing.org" style="CURSOR: pointer" onclick="javascript:window.open(this.src);" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://bbs.oldbeijing.org/skins/default/filetype/jpg.gif" border="0"/>此主题相关图片如下：副本1.jpg <a href="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2012-1/201212710205698005.jpg" target="_blank"><img title="oldbeijing.org" style="CURSOR: pointer" alt="图片点击可在新窗口打开查看" src="http://img.obj.cc/forum/dvbbs/2012-1/201212710205698005.jpg" border="0"/></a> </div>
此楼高度是经过推演的大吉之数，此物为正心檩高度标志，据以确定整体构架高度。

zhaohq 发表于 2012-1-28 10:18:00

<div class="msgheader">QUOTE:</div><div class="msgborder">以下是引用adam58588在2012-1-27 10:21:00的发言： 

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有个疑问。
 
此图内，近景是城楼东面的硬山顶的值房（堆拨）？
 
 
  
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高蛤米 发表于 2012-2-11 20:01:00

珍贵的老照片。

故纸园丁 发表于 2012-12-17 09:47:45

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